Stop Toxic Relationship Cycles

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Here’s what’s inside this week’s episode 👇🎧 

• Energy Update & Channeled Insights⚡️👁️

• Q&A: Coaching Tips & Soul Work ☎️

• Universal Law of The Week ✨

➡️ ENERGY UPDATE | #1 Relationship K*ller and Healer

Relationships are the greatest mirror of the soul. They don’t create your wounds, they expose them.
This week, the cosmic focus turns to self-awareness within relationships, inviting us to examine the ways we unconsciously sabotage love, connection, and intimacy.

According to Spiritual Psychology, every relationship is a projection of identity. The people who trigger you most are not your enemies — they’re reflections of your shadow self, pointing to unresolved trauma or misbeliefs in your subconscious mind.

✨ Universal Law teaches us that our relationships are not random, they are direct reflections of our inner world — our beliefs, patterns, and suppressed parts of self.

The source of all relationship suffering?
Wanting people and situations to be different than they are.

When you say “they shouldn’t be like this,” you’re arguing with reality and projecting internal resistance outward.

There’s only ONE way to break free from toxic relationship cycles...
You must stop making the relationship your God.

Your partner is not your Source.
They are not your savior.
They are not the reason you’re suffering — your perception is.

When you make someone else the source of your happiness or pain, you hand over your power. You project your unmet needs, past wounds, and subconscious stories onto them, expecting them to save, validate, or complete you.

But here's the truth:

• It's not your partner you're fighting — it's your own shadow.

• It’s not their actions — it’s the meaning you assign to them.

• It’s not about control — it’s about consciousness.
  
  

So, stop trying to fix them.
Stop trying to change them.
Stop trying to rescue or reform them.
Stop making them wrong so you can feel right.

Instead:

• Take your power back.

• Make Source your Source again.

• Heal the part of you that’s looking for love outside yourself.

• Practice radical gratitude and spiritual responsibility.

• See your relationships as mirrors — not mistakes.
  
  

✨ Turn projection into appreciation.
✨ Turn attachment into alignment.
✨ Turn codependency into conscious connection.

Celebrate who they are — not for what they give you, but for what they reflect.
Because the moment you stop needing them to be different, you become free to love without condition.

 THIS WEEKS ASTROLOGY HIGHLIGHTS

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🪐 July 22 — Sun Enters Leo
The Sun returns home to Leo, awakening the part of you that craves expression, recognition, and creative leadership. But in the realm of Spiritual Psychology, true confidence comes not from performance, but from the subconscious belief in your worth.

According to the Law of Individualization, you are a unique emanation of the Divine. This Leo season is a call to remember your spiritual royalty—not to seek the spotlight, but to embody your light.

Spiritual Coaching Tip:
Ask yourself: “What parts of me am I still seeking outside validation for?” Guide yourself and your clients to do subconscious belief work around visibility, worth, and divine identity.

⚡️ July 22 — Sun in Leo Sextile Uranus in Gemini
Expect the unexpected—inspiration, synchronicity, even flashes of intuitive genius. This aspect is a cosmic green light to liberate the mind and shake up old paradigms.

Through the Law of Emergent Evolution, you’re being guided to evolve beyond your comfort zone by aligning with spontaneous insight. Your subconscious is ready for reprogramming—if you're willing to embrace the unknown.

Spiritual Coaching Tip:
Try this journal prompt: “If I stopped trying to be who I’ve always been… who would I become?” Use movement or breathwork to unlock suppressed creativity today.

💥 July 23 — Venus in Gemini Square Mars in Virgo
This tension may show up in relationships, especially between the mind (Venus in Gemini) and the desire to fix or control (Mars in Virgo). It's a powerful moment for subconscious shadow work around love, perfectionism, and self-worth.

The Law of Polarity teaches us that contrast is the catalyst for consciousness. When friction arises, don’t resist it—use it to reveal the deeper emotional programming beneath the surface.

Spiritual Coaching Tip:
Support yourself or a client in the inquiry: “What does this conflict really remind me of?” Let emotions rise without judgment and use them to access the root cause.

🌟 July 24 — Sun in Leo Trine Saturn in Aries
This is discipline aligned with desire. A golden opportunity to embody divine leadership and turn dreams into structure.

The Law of Cause and Effect reminds us: what you consistently commit to, you will manifest. Saturn brings structure to Leo’s fire, helping you anchor your purpose in real-world action.

Spiritual Coaching Tip:
Today is ideal for building out your vision. Lead a visioning session or future pacing process with your clients. Ask: “If success were guaranteed, what structure would I commit to?”

✨ July 24 — Sun in Leo Trine Neptune in Aries
The veil is thin. Compassion, imagination, and spiritual purpose flow effortlessly today. This is an invitation to merge creativity with divine service.

The Law of Oneness shows us: when you uplift others, you uplift yourself. Let your inner mystic speak.

Spiritual Coaching Tip:
Facilitate or experience a spiritual mind treatment or meditation focused on unity, divine will, and selfless creativity. Let divine inspiration lead your next big move.

✨ July 24 — New Moon in Leo
This is the seed point of a powerful new cycle in your self-expression, confidence, and spiritual leadership. It’s the perfect time to plant intentions around living from soul, not ego.

The Law of Mentalism reminds us: all creation begins in consciousness. This New Moon asks you to boldly reprogram your subconscious with a new internal identity.

Spiritual Coaching Tip:
Write or record a subconscious affirmation track today. Use it for 21 days. Affirm: “I am the divine expression of love, leadership, and light.”

👁️ July 24 — Sun in Leo Opposite Pluto in Aquarius
Power struggles and intense emotions may rise. This aspect is not here to destroy you—it’s here to illuminate the parts of you still ruled by subconscious fear.

The Law of Transmutation says nothing is ever destroyed, only transformed. This is your soul’s way of confronting what needs to be alchemized.

Spiritual Coaching Tip:
Guide a client (or yourself) through an E4 session or subconscious clearing. Ask: “What am I afraid of losing?” This is your chance to shift power from the ego to the soul.

➡️ Q&A | Coaching Tips & Soul Work 

☎️ 12 Questions People Ask When Struggling in Relationships:

1. Why do I keep attracting toxic people?

2. Is it me, or is it them?

3. Why can’t I speak up or set boundaries?

4. Why am I so triggered in this relationship?

5. Am I codependent or just loving deeply?

6. Why do I lose myself in relationships?

7. Why am I scared to be alone?

8. Can I fix this, or should I walk away?

9. Why do I keep repeating the same patterns?

10. How do I stop abandoning myself for love?

11. Can I trust myself to choose better next time?

12. Why does love hurt more than it heals?
    
    

🧠 Spiritual Psychology Tip:
To heal your relationships, you must heal your relationship with yourself.
Use the mirror:

• What are they reflecting back?
  
  

• What part of you believes you’re not enough, not lovable, or not safe?
  
  

• What did you make it mean when they acted that way?
  
  

🕊️ Coaching Reflection:
Your best friends mirror your light.
Your triggers mirror your wounds.
And every relationship — good or bad — is an invitation to return home to wholeness.

Let this week be your reminder: You’re not here to fix others. You’re here to free yourself.
From that freedom, love becomes natural. ☎️✔️

➡️ UNIVERSAL LAW OF THE WEEK | Universal Law of Healing

“Turn your pain into your purpose.”

This law states that each person has a special gift, a unique purpose, and message to bring to the world. At a spiritual level, your emotional traumas are your greatest blessings because they are the catalyst that births your purpose. Furthermore, you have a unique talent that no other individual in the world has. Through the intention of merging these two gifts, working for the highest good and out of service, this law unlocks the Divine within. The entire cosmos has aligned for you to take on a physical form to fulfill this calling. There's a message and a gift within you that the world thirsts for. You are the only person in the entire Universe with this Divine purpose. Your Divine purpose is your destiny. 

AWAKEN THE ORACLE WITHIN: There's a message and a gift within you that the world is ready for. You are the only person in the entire cosmos with your gifts. By drawing this card, your Higher Self is ready to give your spiritual blessings to the world. You may have known what this purpose is for quite some time, but may not have believed yourself worthy of such a grand plan. The Universe is conspiring for your greatness. You have to get out of your way and commit by putting in both feet. 

JOURNAL & ACTION: Invest your time and energy into doing your inner trauma work, transforming your suffering into service. Also, open up your calendar or diary and cross off everything that does not make your heart sing. It is time to only say ‘Yes’ to things you love!

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Transcripts:

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Are you somebody that is having challenges in your relationships? Maybe it's with your beloved or your person, your ex or your family member, or your sister or your siblings or your children or whatever it is. We all have upsets when it comes to our relationships. It's part of the human experience. And one thing I've found as a master spiritual coach and as a Dr. Divinity training thousands of people around the globe is that nine out of 10 people are dealing with relationship issues that are affecting their wealth, their health, and everything, their energetics, because it's all a game of energy. So if you're, somebody wants to actually understand what is the one thing that is destroying your relationships and what is the one thing that's going to actually have 'em thrive, you definitely want to listen to this. Welcome to the Dr. Erin Show. May you live your truth.

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Hi there. I'm Dr. Erin, Dr. Divinity and master spiritual coach, and today I'm going to break on down the one thing really, the one thing that I have come to over many, many years of dealing with my own relationship issues, ups and downs, and helping so many women and men around the globe. The one thing that is actually really destroying your relationships, or if you flip it, it is the one thing that's going to have 'em thrive. So let's break this on down. I want to first share a little bit about the conversation today is near and dear to my heart, which is relationships, which of course for all of us, we care deeply about our relationships. And for me, I was somebody who came from a very dysfunctional upbringing. My mother was definitely codependent. I remember being a little girl and watching her and she would be sad when she was single.

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And then she'd get into a relationship and she'd get really super high, literally high on life. Everything was amazing. And then she'd slam down. They'd begin to get in arguments, she'd become miserable again, and then that relationship would leave, and then it was the whole cycle. It was like the merry-go-round over and over again. I see this of course, with a lot of the women that I train around the world. I would say nine out of 10 of the women that I work with are dealing with some level of relationship, toxicity, dysfunction, and even codependency. And I personally went through it for many, many years in my life. I had ups and downs. I would get into relationships, I would make them wrong. I would argue we'd break up. It was like, oh, then I get high on life because I was single and didn't have to deal with that.

(02:29):

And then I would slowly feel sad and lonely, and then I'd bring in the next relationship. Some people call it love addiction. Some people call it upsets. It doesn't matter. It's just a spectrum. So it may not be always with your partner or your husband or wife or your intimate partner. It may be with your friends. Some people are really good with their partners, but then they are always having upsets with their family members or their friends or whatever it is. So you really want to get real with yourself. I think that's the first thing, is looking at your life and thinking, where am I versus where do I want to be? Okay. And we have to really get real because nothing changes until we change. So today I'm going to not break down all of the distinctions for you, but the one thing that has really helped me the most and my clients the most, and as we teach spiritual psychology, what we're teaching is that there's source, there is spirit within our true self that is really manifesting and projecting into the 3D world, but it's going through the filter, the filter of the subconscious, the filter of what really is the false identity, the limited identity, the limited beliefs, and it's projecting out and it's reflecting back in through everything.

(03:44):

So for me, I know that one of the things that was projecting out in relationships was low. So no matter what happened, even I just really couldn't even call in a healthy person because I needed to fulfill the identity of that. I'm not lovable. Something's wrong with me because when you come from parenting where my mother was an alcoholic and also really I would consider a love addict, she was in and out of relationship all the time. My father also, he went to go find another family. And so for me, not making them wrong, but rather what I kind of began to have as a little girl was the identity that something's wrong with me and I'm not lovable, and that was the meaning I put on it. And so not to blame them, but rather to know that just the human nature of the spiritual psychology of how we create.

(04:32):

Okay, so I want to bring you one distinction today because we have an energy update. Every week I come in here with an energy update. So I highly recommend to subscribe. You can download the universal law calendar below because we go over universal law distinction as well. And I come on here, sometimes I talk about energy updates from astrology, even though I don't typically teach astrology, but all the energetics are exactly the same as universal law, which I have my doctorate in. So we come in here each week, I want you to be able to binge these. We do 'em for about 11 to 22 minutes and bringing one distinction into your life so that you can carry this through throughout your week and really look at it and get real of yourself. So this distinction this week is that there's only one thing that is really destroying your relationships.

(05:21):

There's one thing, and it is making other people wrong or making them the source. When you make somebody the source of your joy, you instantaneously make 'em the source of your suffering. I want you to really get that, okay? If you really get that, that there's only one distinction spiritually that you need to master in this lifetime, and it's very hard to master, but it is basically handing your power over to things of the external world. The gaps of suffering is wanting people, places in life to be different than they are. And then we want all these things different in the world and we suffer because of it. Okay? So the reason why any relationship is suffering is because people are wanting the other person to be different, change them, fix 'em, all those things. I know it very well, right? It's like I fell in love with a very famous rock star years ago.

(06:12):

I've told my story many times and I was like, oh, I wanted this part of him, all of his charisma, all of his handsome, great lover, very entertaining, but I didn't want all the things like that. He cheated, lied, was just a lot of shenanigans, a lot of just insanity. I wanted only the good things and I want all this, and I wanted to change and fix all these things over here. And that's not how life works. People are on their own track. So the one distinction we want to get today is to understand that there's only one thing that's happening is that we are handing our power over to the external world. We're suffering. We want everyone to be different. And then it becomes this battle, and this is the mastery of relationships. The mastery of relationships is accepting people exactly as they are and then celebrating the things that you really are alignment with or whatever is their strength or whatever is the beauty and the gratitude that they have.

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That doesn't mean that we keep them in our inner circle or in a relationship with them, but that means that even if it may be your family, okay, family's a very commonplace where you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family per se. We pick 'em from a spiritual perspective, but they're here as a masterclass for us because they're really the shadow and the light side of all of us. And so if you want your family to thrive, then we have to focus on the strength. And I've told the story many, many times of how there's certain family members that I'm not as motivated to nurture versus say, my son, who I care so much about that I'm willing to really make sure that I'm always focusing on what is absolutely thriving there, focusing on making him right instead of wrong. And that's the key.

(08:10):

So there's only one way to break free from toxic relationships. There's only one way to have your relationships thrive, and it is to no longer create them as your higher power to no longer make them your source for your joy or your suffering. There's only one way to heal relationships, and it is to focus on people's strengths. In my opinion. I think that psychology has done, traditional psychology has done a lot of great things, but it also has really hurt us as well in that when we label people and we tell 'em they are X, Y, and Z, we're actually putting our indoctrination, our shoulds and all those things on other people, there's all expressions in this world be who's to. People need to communicate just the way you want them to communicate or the way the culture says or anything. The bottom line is there's only one way to ruin a relationship, and it is to focus on people's weaknesses and make them wrong and judge 'em and all that thing.

(09:13):

There's one way to make them right, which is focusing on their strengths, celebrating what is great about them, on honoring them and respecting them for exactly where they are in their journey. So this is a huge one. It's huge, especially because astrologically, we just went into Mercury, went into retrograde, which means your exes are coming back or cycles that you have not completed, that you didn't do, right? Okay, so here I am. I've just moved over to Florida. Again, basing out of here. I have an ex over here that's been so amazing because back in the day when we were together, I remember we had our differences, and I remember really focusing on those differences and making him wrong at some level, and he did the same to me. So here we are as friends coming back together and I'm like, oh my gosh, I get to actually celebrate this human being.

(10:07):

I get to know we're not dating, but I get to actually just honor him, respect him, and see the beauty that was there between us as even friends and stuff. He's an amazing human being. So it's just really cool to watch and see yourself grow and go, oh, let's see if I made him wrong or want to fix him or change him. We couldn't even be in each other's lives, but we can as celebrating those things. So hopefully you treat others the way you want to be treated. We all want to be celebrated. We want to be respected. We want to not be judged, okay? Nobody likes that. So as we go into Mercury retrograde, which we went into a few days ago, and again, I want you to be able to take these energy updates and they're timeless, but some of the energetics going on, there's a lot of energetics, a lot of amazing things going on, a lot of political stuff, and it's the same thing.

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If you focus on politics and make it wrong, it's going to suffer. We want to celebrate and focus on what we do. We're like water. So my invitation this week as we go into this week's Universal law of the Week, so as we go into this week's universal law of the week, it is the law of dharma, and dharma in general is kind of like your purpose. It doesn't have to be a career. A lot of the women I help, one of the biggest things I help people do is discover their soul's purpose and monetize it and make an impact doing what they're really here to do in their soul assignment, but it may not be a career. Your purpose is really to clear yourself, your subconscious mind, your purpose really is to have the wax on, wax off of work, of loving unconditionally, and that's really what we're here to do.

(11:50):

So the purpose, the entire purpose of life is to love. So focusing on people's strengths. So my invitation today is to take some time, send some love letters, not love bombing, but love letters, gratitude letters. Think of your friends, think of the loved ones, even people that you're upset with or that you've been judging in the past, and just send them gratitude through the universe. And energetically, it has to shift at some level, right? You don't have to say anything. You don't have to do anything when you consciously just do it at a soul level within you and the universe. It's going to shift energetically at some level. Okay? So in that, just want to answer a few more questions about relationships. Going to the q and a part of today's little thing here. Some of the questions people ask, there's actually 12 questions on the newsletter.

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You can grab the newsletter as well. I go through all the astrology of this week and how it relates to spiritual psychology and some tips around that and how it relates to universal law. I also go into a lot of q and a, so there's 12 questions here. Why do I keep attracting toxic people? Well, that is what we really master within the school. I train and accredit eight SPPC practitioners, spiritual psychology practitioner coaches in universal law and E four method in doing regressions of current lifetime, past lifetime, and compressing it for time, compressing for future. So the reason why anyone keeps attracting toxic people, which I know I have been there for many years, I was there, is because you're toxic.

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Hate to break the news to everybody, but they want to point the finger, oh, you're a narcissist, or you're that, or whatever. But if you were healthy, you wouldn't stay in that relationship. You wouldn't keep in that vicious cycle. You cannot be with a toxic person if you're not toxic, and that's really hard to see because I remember back in the day when my ex was cheating, he was lying. I was like, no, no, no, it's him, it's him, it's him. But a toxic person calls in a toxic person, a dysfunctional. So what's dysfunction? It means it doesn't work. Toxic is just like, it actually destroys it actually. Like you lose money, your health goes down. It's literally toxic. So you have to take a look at your relationships and go, where is this? Is this healthy? Is it making my life better, or is it dysfunctional?

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It's not working, and it's really having everything stuck and impacting me negatively, or is it actually toxic? And toxic means it's actually hurting you, hurting your health, hurting your wealth, hurting your, literally, it's hurting. And I remember this concept that it's dangerous to be with someone who's really toxic because if you're with an addict or anyone, you will become an addict because when you get that upset in relationships are actually causing trauma. Not what happens to you, it's what's happening within you, and you get really upset, all these emotions, all these arguments, and you're deciding things, I hate you. Oh, I don't want to live. Oh, I'm not enough. I'll never love again. I'll never trust again. These commands, these negative commands are going to go into the subconscious. So it's imperative. Healing your relationships and doing this work is imperative. So if you're in a toxic relationship, a dysfunctional relationship, or just rather actually we call it anorexic, of just pushing people away and just never dealing with it, that's considered anorexic from a relationship standpoint.

(15:19):

All those are unhealthy. You got to keep communicating. You got to stay and take responsibility and heal the places that need to be healed. You don't want regrets, okay? So in this, take a deep breath in, I'm just saying thank you and grateful for all, any and all of my exes. I'm saying grateful for all the lessons and the blessings, and I recognize and I take full responsibility for anything and everything that occurred because I at some level called that in. I'm recognizing right here, the beauty of all relationships and all the abundance of love that I have and that we all have, and we open up our eyes and open up our hearts. I'm giving gratitude for the relationship, how I relate, and I relate ability to everything, every one, every circumstance. I say, thank you for the soul assignment of family. Thank you for the soul assignment of beautiful friends.

(16:17):

Thank you for the soul assignment for any of our partners or husbands or wives or intimate partners saying grateful, knowing this is a class a masterclass called life, and just knowing the perfection of it with gratitude, our release as together, we say, and so it is. And so it is, okay you guys. So you can grab the universal law free calendar below, you can grab the newsletter. And if you aren't already in the school, if you are dealing with relationship issues, even if you don't want to turn this work into a career, we have many people come into just the SPPC area of the certification that just want to do their work. Because in there you're going into triad pod calls, you're coming into transformational coaching calls, you're doing all the deep work, and literally you can't afford to not transcend and transform your life. These things, the amount of health issues that you're going to have that are better, the amount of income you're going to make, the amount of better relationships, the amount of everything, you just know that the best investment you can ever make is in your consciousness. I truly, truly believe that because then we get just all areas of our life exponentially get better in that. Have a beautiful, blessed day, you guys, and may you live the truth.

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